Annoying Cliches That Impede Women in EDM

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Last week, Do Androids Dance posted that they were in search of writers, preferably a female writer, I don’t know what came over me, but I decided to just go for it, a couple of email exchanges with khal, and now here I am... shit... what now? Where do I even begin?

Well for starters allow me to introduce myself, my name is Alessandra, I’m most commonly known as Ma-less (pronounced Malice), I’m a female DJ and producer based out of Orlando, FL. I am 1/3 of the Moombah Mafia alongside Dr. Khan and Big Makk, I’m a resident at an internationally known tropical bass night known as Shake ‘n Bass, which is held every Sunday night in downtown Orlando. I’ve produced a couple of remixes and created an EP, all of which have been blogged through various blogs over the past year or so. I also have a monthly radio show called “The Wonderland” on EOSfm Radio. Why do I take these few minutes to shamelessly plug myself? Merely to point out that I’m not just another bimbo that decided it’d be cute to be a blogger.

I come to you because there are so many women in this industry who are straight killing it, whether it’s DJing, producing, running record labels, sound engineers, event planners, promoters, we may make up a small percentage of this male dominated industry, a measly 20% according to a study conducted by female:pressure, but we are here and here to stay. A lot of women within that 20% are truly talented and driven, and yet when I come across write ups about female DJs it’s about how Paris Hilton packed 19 suitcases for one fucking gig in Ibiza, yes, because that’s totally reflective of her musical skill level (or lack thereof). So my mission is to share with you my own and other women’s perspective and experiences, our music, and our talent and capabilities. I rallied the troops and contacted every legitimate female DJ, producer, record label owner, sound engineer I know and asked them two simple questions:

1.) What are the 10 of the most annoying things we hear as women in the industry?

and

2.) On the flip-side, what are 10 things you feel people should know about female DJs/producers/sound engineers/etc. in order for everyone to coexist in a more harmonious way?

Let me tell you, we shared some great laughs and great stories, I hope by sharing this with you, you’ll gain some insight as to the crazy shit we deal with, so without further ado, let’s begin.

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  • You tried

    Well for starters allow me to introduce myself, my name is Alessandra, I’m most commonly known as Ma-less (pronounced Malice), I’m a female DJ and producer based out of Orlando, FL. I am 1/3 of the Moombah Mafia alongside Dr. Khan and Big Makk, I’m a resident at an internationally known tropical bass night known as Shake ‘n Bass, which is held every Sunday night in downtown Orlando.

    This makes her sound like a self-righteous bitch. I’m heavily involved in dance music and I have never heard of Ma-less, the “Moombah Mafia” (being from the place where Moombah was invented I’d like to say that this is total bullshit) or “Shake and Bass”.

    I’ve produced a couple of remixes and created an EP, all of which have been blogged through various blogs over the past year or so. I also have a monthly radio show called “The Wonderland” on EOSfm Radio. Why do I take these few minutes to shamelessly plug myself? Merely to point out that I’m not just another bimbo that decided it’d be cute to be a blogger.

    Cool you have a few tracks and a radio show on some internet radio that no one has ever heard of. And BLOGS have talked about you! It’s not 2006. Blogs are total bullshit nowadays. No one takes them seriously. Hell, we barely let them get by on here. I’m letting this stay up because I want people to see the REAL reason why women don’t make waves in electronic music, and the only ones who do are humble and quiet. (Note: I’m in no way telling women to shut up about WOMEN POWER to push their career forward, I’m just saying it’s the truth.) Take Maya Jane Coles or Reid Speed. Intelligent, well spoken and not bigheaded in the least bit.

    Now on to the list:

    Our sexual orientation is NOT your business.

    This is a reason that people are impeded in the business of EDM? Fuck I’d tell people I fuck sheep if it’d get me a slot at Ultra to prove myself. Who cares? Be confident in your abilities and dismiss the haters.

    Compliments

    FUCKING COMPLIMENTS?! Are you kidding me? Sure it’s annoying to not be complimented on your craft, but if someone thinks this makes you hotter than you are then take the compliment and move on. This is ridiculous. She goes on a tirade about being told she’s sexy. And ends with this:

    Now I know some guys who DJ to get chicks and they’re quite successful at it, too, but typically speaking women are not DJing to get laid. What’s that sound? Oh the sound of every male fantasy being crushed to oblivion? …Whoops, I’ve said too much.

    It’s like she too a class on how to write like an unprofessional child. If you want us to take you seriously, write seriously.

    We are not all angry feminists

    Could have fooled me.

    All in all I give this a 1/10. This is a shitty attempt to prove the woman’s worth in EDM. I personally wish there was as many woman as men in any profession and I agree with some of her points. Her reactions to these cliches though prove that she doesn’t know what it takes to make in business. Yes there are going to be things to hinder your career the way to react to them are going to be the lasting impression.

    Here’s her soundcloud. I’m not impressed but I guess it’s because she’s a woman and I should check my privilege.

    • Soundcloud
    • fil

      sounds pretty bitter to me

    • Jake

      You kind of just sound bitter you weren’t chosen instead of her.

      • Nope

        Chosen to write some fluff piece whining about why women “can’t make it” in EDM? No thanks.

    • http://www.rockthedub.com/ khal

      “Blogs are total bullshit nowadays.” – a commenter on a blog.

      next!

      • “Mod”

        Actually, I consider this site a step above boring bloggers but when you allow such trash to be posted then I guess I should think again.

        • http://www.rockthedub.com/ khal

          you considering this “trash” is your opinion. whoever you are, you seem to be one of the few to even hold this opinion. you going in on the comments section, responding to each and every person, doesn’t make you or your argument look any better. i’m glad you’ve enjoyed the site, but i disagree with your comments and the way you’re going about it. and when someone wants to go to such lengths to attack a piece, i can do nothing but defend.

    • MHKAZ

      I can honestly say this article is on point. A lot of people have a misconception on female artist and there for do not respect them. However, We have to keep in mind that in the same way 95% of guys have sabotage your attempts with a girl from the start, (due to previous history and lame pick up lines) Some females have done the same by painting any females music career as a red flag *cough* Paris Hilton etc… *cough* and although we may be wrong we tend to assume that the intentions are others as far as what that individual is trying to achieve. There are 100′s of amazing TALENTED women out there that produce and dj. But then we have these……. Pornstars,Actresses and all these other bunch of women turned “Dj’s” who pay established artist to ghost produce for them and try to use sex to sell there image and not there hard legitimate work.

      • Ma-less

        Thanks MHKAZ, I am very (annoyingly) aware that there are indeed women who perpetuate stereotypes & focus solely on sex appeal instead of music, it’s why I’ve chosen to speak out, to show that there are women who strive to let their music speak for themselves, & that not every female in the industry is like Paris Hilton, but I also wanted to share some experiences we deal with, not to whine, not to make excuses as to “why we can’t make it” (we’d be stupid to let these experiences stop us) but more so as an informative piece, to give people food for thought, to bring awareness so hopefully with time things will change & everyone, male or female, can just focus solely on music. Thanks so much for “getting it” I’ve noticed through the comments some people were offended and missed the point entirely, c’est la vie

  • C’mon man

    Tl;dr please

    • tldr

      We are women, don’t treat us differently. But fuck you if you do. You’re a sexist because we aren’t as prevalent in EDM.

  • good one

    haha why you mad bro?

  • BIG MAKK

    HAHA Who has time to leave a comment like that really? hating bitch

    • you tried, again.

      Someone who has spent more time than you in the scene dumbass. Get em next time.

      • BIG MAKK

        HAHA BITTER BITCH

        • great comebacks

          If you put this much effort into your tracks you might be able to open for me one day. Punk.

          • BIG MAKK

            BUAHAHAHHAHAHAHA OHKAYHOE

      • TR_808

        ooh, and what scene is that?

        Impress me.

  • Bunny

    Wicked article, this shit needed saying (and needs showing) around the music business.

  • ktothe7

    Ma-less, THANK YOU for writing an article like this. As a female in the industry (I’m a photographer) I get what you’re saying about being looked at differently. Thought i Don’t have a lot of the same problems as a DJ would, I definitely agree when you say that we’re perceived as groupies or judged by our appearance. I hope that the growth of the scene allows us to gain the recognition we deserve. Welcome to DAD :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/djnonsequitur kelsey

    I’ve been thinking about women in the industry a LOT lately because a few weeks ago, I was approached by some big fancy agent dude who took one look at me (and never listened to a note I’d produced) and decided that he wanted to turn me into a Paris Hilton-esque gimmiky porn star “DJ.” Throw all my skills out the window, toss all my personal style, and strip me naked and put me on a magazine as a “celebrity DJ.” I was so depressed because I was afraid that this is what I’d be relegated to if I wanted to succeed. I’m so sick of it. Of course I said no, but I’ve been thinking about it constantly since it happened. Ugh. It’s frustrating how sex appeal seems to be an inherent part of being a female DJ, but not so much if you’re a dude. Why does it matter what I look like? Just shut up and dance!

  • HEADofROTHCHILD

    Kush got me leaving blog comments

  • ledparade

    “Female DJs demystified”

  • yeh sure

    don’t mean this in a dick way, because it was a good read…but it seems like you’re just complaining a lot.

    I can agree with you on a lot of points you have made, although after a couple of new “reasons” it really just sounds like a desperate cry for attention because you’re a female.

    kind of backfired, no?

    • http://www.rockthedub.com/ khal

      where’s the backfiring, though?

  • a girl

    cannot read this article, the javascript is broken

  • Phil

    god damn it’s hilarious to watch your entire writer staff get publically defensive when someone calls you out for publishing shit.

    Khal justifying the crappy article and himself to every comment, jake lang straight up calling readers bitter…

    Journalism at its finest, ladies and gentlemen…

    • http://www.rockthedub.com/ khal

      troll on, troller.